Seminar Response 11-18

“The dog is a very good one: you know that well-bred dogs are perfectly gentle to their familiars and acquaintances, and the reverse to strangers (230).”

Here Socrates states that the Guardians should be gentle to society and others around them but hostile to the enemy. He makes sense of the example of the guard dog, and how it is nice to its owner but attacks unfamiliar people. This connects to White Fang who minded everyone in the family but when he saw trouble he attacked. This whole idea of the Guardians being two sided doesn't make a lot of sense. In the beginning of the section he states that there should be specialization and that each person should focus on one task and do it well. If the Guardians are both friendly and savage, it will take away from them in a battle when maybe their friendly side will want to take over instead of being savage. They would also not be as savage as they could be since they have made room for softness.

Seminar Response 11-13

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“But, oh! My beloved Socrates, let me entreat you once more to take my advice and escape. For if you die I shall not only lose a friend who can never be replaced, but there is another evil (43).” Crito wanted Socrates to escape from the bondage that in his opinion was not fair. Socrates probably had many friends who wanted Socrates to escape and were willing to pay money for his release from jail. Then Socrates responds with “I am certain not to agree with you; no, not even if the power of the multitude could inflict many more imprisonments, confiscations, deaths, frightening us like children with hobgoblin terrors (45).” Socrates want to accept his punishment in accordance to the state and their laws. If he did run away he would probably be subject to more time in jail due to his radical ideas.

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“Are we to say that we never intentionally to do wrong, or that in one way we ought and in another way we ought not to do wrong, or is doing wrong always evil and dishonorable (49).” This connects to the Law and Justice packet because it talked about how Martin Luther King Jr. and how he believed that the current laws were not just but still accepted his punishment for breaking them. This is very similar to how Socrates is dealing with breaking his laws. He thought he was doing right by teaching the younger generation with his ideas and values while the material and ideas that he was teaching was banned by the state and therefore breaking the law.

Seminar Response 11-4

Quote

 

"I tell you that virtue is not given by money, but from virtue comes money and every other good of man, public as well as private (pg 22)."

 

            This quote from Socrates has a lot of good thinking behind it and is something that I work towards in life. He talks about how you can't buy virtue (value, knowledge, and worth) in society, he says that you have to earn it. So I am following the same principal by going to school and getting an education. I am working towards my future, not just hoping that everything will turn out ok. You are not going to live in a big mansion if you dream about it, you have to work for it and earn it. Even in our everyday lives, you can't wish you had good relationships with everyone, you have to work hard towards it and communicate effectively. What you put in to life is what you will get out of it. If you work hard, you will see the benefits of doing so.